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  Feedback on RC from JW Friendly Site

  by konceptual99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there has been some comment on the latest rc proceedings on that well know jw friendly site.. one set of posts has been particularly interesting as the poster related their own experience as an abuse victim when they were a child in the congregation.

  this of course took courage and the poster deserves no criticism at all for this.

  he is, however, still very supportive of the organisation.. this is his latest post:.

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  Island Man

  Whilst I have nothing but sympathy for his experiences I can't help wondering how someone who was abused and whose abuser was not sanctioned can have this much support for the organisation still.

  Knowing that most black Americans are christians despite the fact that the bible condones slavery and was used to justify the enslavement of their ancestors; and knowing the majority of christians are women despite the bible's misogynistic principles; I can fully appreciate how a sex abuse victim can turn to defending the organization that let his abuser go free without reporting him to the police.

  The answer is RELIGION = Reason Extinguished Leaving Ignorance, Gullibility, Insanity and Other Nonsense.
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  Royal Commission Live Hearing Now

  by LostinJapan in

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  2. child-abuse

  wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

  case study 29, july 2015, sydney.

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  When he said "absolutely!" he shook his head instead of nodding. That's a micro-expression that shows he's lying! His subconscious mind is shaking his head to say no, while his lips are saying yes. LOL
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  Royal Commission Live Hearing Now

  by LostinJapan in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  wednesday 5 , day 7 live hearing.

  case study 29, july 2015, sydney.

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  OMG! Toole just contradicted the JW position on Acts 5:29. The female counsel asked him if legislated mandatory reporting would would conflict with the JWs understanding of Galatians 6:? about everyone bearing their own load and he said no. He said they would do whatever the superior authorities say. That contradicts earlier point about obeying God as ruler rather than men. What a blind hypocrite!
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  Royal Commission live Today

  by LostinJapan in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  tuesday 4 _ .

  case study 29 .

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  I think the blond helper of the Watchtower lawyers is having bouts of internal conflict. Do you see the kinds of facial expressions she makes periodically? lol.
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  Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  anyone know who this monty baker is?

  i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".

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  Dr. Applewhite should be appointed as an elder and all the elders who testified should be deleted for incompetence!

  Isn't it revealing that a non-JW woman is doing a better job of knowing and defending the JWs policies than any of the elders did?
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  A few facts to ponder

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been in correspondence recently with silentambs and a few interesting things have been highlighted.

  some of you may know, that bill bowen has twice tried to get the fbi involved in investigating child molestation issues in the jws org.

  this is what he said to me, i quote: we have reported to the fbi on two occasions and were rebuffed due to them not wishing to get involved with a religion.

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  I think the OP just broke the JWN record for the most thumbs down.
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  How much was Christ's ransom sacrifice? Equal to Adam?

  by jonathan dough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how much was the ransom?

  gods justice did not require an exact equivalent man-for-man sacrifice between the first adam and jesus, the second adam.

  gods gift required more.

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  If memory serve me right wasn't Jesus pretty much beaten to a pulp by the Romans before being crucified? How can Jesus be a sacrifice in such a condition in light of Deuteronomy 17.1:
  You shall not sacrifice to the Lord your God an ox or a sheep that has any defect of a serious kind, for that is abhorrent to the Lord your God.

  
  

  I think Watchtower's response to that would be something like:

  Evidently, Jesus' sacrifice began, in a sense, from the start of his mistreatment after his arrest. Jesus sacrifice was not limited to his death on the stake but includes his suffering leading up to his death. At the start of his suffering - the start of his sacrifice - he was physically sound in every respect. Thus any disfiguring wound Jesus had before his actual execution do not disqualify his body from being a suitable offering to Jehovah, since these wounds were inflicted as part of the process of the sacrifice.
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  Another Shocking clip From JW Australia Royal investigation Elder would not report MURDER

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfj1ecde5fy.

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  I have a theory. Remember how that elder said he doesn't read the news and wasn't familiar with the work of the Royal Commission. Well, what if . . . none of these elders realize that their testimony is being streamed to the public? What if they think that the proceedings are being done in a clandestine way - like in a JW judicial committee? lol

  I think that best explains the shocking, embarrassing honesty with which the elders expose their foolish extremist positions. They think no one outside the commission is watching and so the public wouldn't know of their ugly extremism.
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  It's a great time to be alive: 'Star Trek Impulse Drive' works and could get us to the moon in 4 hours. Mars in 70 days.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, star trek impulse drive was click bait.

  but this british designed engine has been compared to that.. interplanetary travel could be a step closer after scientists confirmed that an electromagnetic propulsion drive, which is fast enough to get to the moon in four hours, actually works.. .

  the em drive was developed by the british inventor roger shawyer nearly 15 years ago but was ridiculed at the time as being scientifically impossible.. .

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  The problem with this technology would be getting a feasible source of electricity to power the drive. At present, solar cells are a very inefficient means of energy conversion, where a only a minor percentage of the light is converted to electricity.
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  JWs trying hard to hide in obscurity right now

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on other discussion boards where active jws participate i notice them deflecting questions about the royal commission in australia by bringing up child abuse statistics of other churches, ostensibly to demonstrate that there is nothing news worthy to see here... "move along!".

  they are trying to make this story disappear into obscurity, irrelevance, as if it's just part and parcel of big institutional life, particularly of the religious nature.

  oh, now they compare themselves to every other religion on the block?.

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  That Texas billboard about child abuse - it couldn't have been put up at a more opportune time